Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
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Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
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Jonathan talking about his Witney trade blanket brought back memories of a discussion we had within the AMM about keeping warm in low temperatures. a few years ago.
Rating for trade blankets in the catalogues.
They rate them as follows:
Trade blankets to 50 degrees
Ingenious and Lachine to 35 degrees
Point Blankets to 30 degrees
Buffalo rug (HBC - Witney) to 20 degrees
__________________________________________
This rating is misleading because it does not take into consideration age, wear, condition,
etc., - then you wash it in cold water and cool dry it's different. Wash the blanket in hot water
and dry hot (will shrink 4-5 inches length and width) but your rating will change greatly, as
the weave has been tightened up many times.
Hold up your blanket to the light before washing, take a good mental picture, then do the same
after washing - you'll be surprised at the difference in the tightness of the weave.
Later,
Buck Conner
This thing about "rating" blankets is real questionable according to several reports I have read and I tend to go with what they say. Everyone has different temperatures they consider uncomfortable to them, I don't mean body mass - like we first think of, a heavier person is warmer than a thin one and so on.
A 1960's US Army report claimed when trying to
rate blankets for different climates, it was
found that some individuals temperature would
be lower when sleeping than a like person in
the same conditions. One may be comfortable and
the other is either cold or too warm, both using
the same blankets and bedding. After several
years of testing all over the world they threw
out their rating system and decided to make additional
blanket available to those that needed them.
Another report done by a Canadian firm was much
the same with the same results.
A good example is Pat Surena mentioned sleeping very comfortable in 15 degree weather with a
buffalo robe and a pair of 6pt wool blankets. I happened to be on that outing with several
others, I used my Wilde and a Witney horse blanket and a bedroll with the blanket covers (3)
stacked light blankets under me, in an open faced lean-too. Several others knowing it was going
to go to a possible -10/15 degrees brought that much or more, I think three of us slept good, a
couple where cold and one sat up and kept a fire going most of the night.
The reason some slept better than others we figured was the ones with loose weave blankets
cooled down the fastest and never did regain their body heat, those with tighter weave and
heavier wool blankets seemed to fair better, Pat with the buff robe faired the best with less heat
loss due to the hide and hair of the robe. You could see the steam coming up off that lump in the
snow.
The rating idea whatever it would have been good for goes out the window with the age,
condition and care of each blanket, I've talked to Jim of Blue Heron Merc. about this several
years ago, nice chart, for a chart. But how does it apply to used blankets, new blankets and so
on!
Later,
Buck Conner
This will continue ....
Be back later
Jonathan talking about his Witney trade blanket brought back memories of a discussion we had within the AMM about keeping warm in low temperatures. a few years ago.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rating for trade blankets in the catalogues.
They rate them as follows:
Trade blankets to 50 degrees
Ingenious and Lachine to 35 degrees
Point Blankets to 30 degrees
Buffalo rug (HBC - Witney) to 20 degrees
__________________________________________
This rating is misleading because it does not take into consideration age, wear, condition,
etc., - then you wash it in cold water and cool dry it's different. Wash the blanket in hot water
and dry hot (will shrink 4-5 inches length and width) but your rating will change greatly, as
the weave has been tightened up many times.
Hold up your blanket to the light before washing, take a good mental picture, then do the same
after washing - you'll be surprised at the difference in the tightness of the weave.
Later,
Buck Conner
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This thing about "rating" blankets is real questionable according to several reports I have read and I tend to go with what they say. Everyone has different temperatures they consider uncomfortable to them, I don't mean body mass - like we first think of, a heavier person is warmer than a thin one and so on.
A 1960's US Army report claimed when trying to
rate blankets for different climates, it was
found that some individuals temperature would
be lower when sleeping than a like person in
the same conditions. One may be comfortable and
the other is either cold or too warm, both using
the same blankets and bedding. After several
years of testing all over the world they threw
out their rating system and decided to make additional
blanket available to those that needed them.
Another report done by a Canadian firm was much
the same with the same results.
A good example is Pat Surena mentioned sleeping very comfortable in 15 degree weather with a
buffalo robe and a pair of 6pt wool blankets. I happened to be on that outing with several
others, I used my Wilde and a Witney horse blanket and a bedroll with the blanket covers (3)
stacked light blankets under me, in an open faced lean-too. Several others knowing it was going
to go to a possible -10/15 degrees brought that much or more, I think three of us slept good, a
couple where cold and one sat up and kept a fire going most of the night.
The reason some slept better than others we figured was the ones with loose weave blankets
cooled down the fastest and never did regain their body heat, those with tighter weave and
heavier wool blankets seemed to fair better, Pat with the buff robe faired the best with less heat
loss due to the hide and hair of the robe. You could see the steam coming up off that lump in the
snow.
The rating idea whatever it would have been good for goes out the window with the age,
condition and care of each blanket, I've talked to Jim of Blue Heron Merc. about this several
years ago, nice chart, for a chart. But how does it apply to used blankets, new blankets and so
on!
Later,
Buck Conner
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This will continue ....
Be back later
Last edited by Buck Conner on 3/9/2022, 12:05 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Re: Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
I can relate to the Army report that some folks sleep warmer than others with the same covers. I sleep under a sheet and throw it off because I'm too hot while my wife is staying warm under her sheet, electric blanket and down comforter in the same room. Oh yeah, I'm a hottie!
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Mustang65 likes this post
Re: Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
Same here Buck.Winter Hawk wrote:I can relate to the Army report that some folks sleep warmer than others with the same covers. I sleep under a sheet and throw it off because I'm too hot while my wife is staying warm under her sheet, electric blanket and down comforter in the same room. Oh yeah, I'm a hottie!
90 outside and I'm sweating bullets, wife is finally getting warm!!
Now Jonathan's girlfriend completely opposite. I'm freezing my ass off at Kit Carson Rendezvous, and she's in a short sleeve dress, no jacket, and she's comfortable Go figure.
Buck Conner likes this post
Re: Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
You just roll with the flow, and do the best you can....never give up.
"Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome"
"Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome"
Re: Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
Thank you, Gentlemen, for making me feel young again!
~Kees~
~Kees~
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Mustang65 likes this post
Re: Keeping warm in Low Temperatures & a Good start for Period Clothing.
Here's a suggestion for getting started once again, simple clothing that has proven to work and doesn't break the bank ...
Buckskins coat (two options), leggings, plain shirt, breechcloth, simple belt knife. This would have you ready and in the style of an early mountaineer - good for spring to early fall, colder weather would suggest a capote and wool head covering and mittens. You don't need all the fancy things a trader with try and get you to buy. Always remember the old saying "You don't see a husker crying rotten fish" ...
Buckskins coat (two options), leggings, plain shirt, breechcloth, simple belt knife. This would have you ready and in the style of an early mountaineer - good for spring to early fall, colder weather would suggest a capote and wool head covering and mittens. You don't need all the fancy things a trader with try and get you to buy. Always remember the old saying "You don't see a husker crying rotten fish" ...
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